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Post  knrclark June 28th 2010, 8:32 pm

Got my heads back from Charlie last week. She is all back together again. Can't wait to get a test run or two. Looking for 5.80's now. I'll post the results when I can get to the track.

Thanks Charlie!

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TNT was not good. The track was awful. I think the new added HP from Charlie exaggerated my already existing traction problems. Best 60" was 1.42 and ran 6.23. Ran a 2nd pass after some adjusting on the alky it was even slower, 1.44 short time and a 6.33. These numbers suck for a 2300 lb. chassis car. I loaded up and went home. I think I'm going to hire a professional to get this chassis lined out.

Thanks Charlie for the work. I'm certain she is making more HP, I just can't get it to the ground.

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Post  c.evans June 28th 2010, 9:33 pm

Kerry,

You are welcome,,,,don't hold your breath in regards to those 5.80's. I just believe it will run better. Take a close look around the margin of those old exhaust valves that I sent back. They are a classic case of the "clippers".

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Post  Treeyasoon June 28th 2010, 9:54 pm

Good luck with it Kerry...keep us posted.
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Post  richter69 June 28th 2010, 11:02 pm

Fatten in up and put that bitch on spme M5...............get your cape ready............ Very Happy
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Post  Lem Evans June 28th 2010, 11:04 pm

Cape Canaveral cyclops

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Post  richter69 June 28th 2010, 11:07 pm

Lem Evans wrote:Cape Canaveral cyclops

Fabio is always up for a CoNfErEnCe CaLl............
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Post  knrclark July 3rd 2010, 12:02 pm

Forgot to add, it was 80's degrees but humid as hell. I was soaking wet all night long. Might have had something to do with the track conditions.

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Post  bruno July 4th 2010, 10:18 am

Kerry ,what was the MPH ?

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Post  hillbillyerv July 4th 2010, 10:29 am

sorry to here that Kerry , Presscott or Centerville?
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Post  richter69 July 4th 2010, 10:49 am

Anxious to see some results from his next outing, see how much of a HeRo I really am. Laughing
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Post  knrclark July 4th 2010, 11:45 pm

bruno wrote:Kerry ,what was the MPH ?

109 on the first pas and 107 on the second.
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Post  knrclark July 4th 2010, 11:46 pm

hillbillyerv wrote:sorry to here that Kerry , Presscott or Centerville?


Prescott.
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Post  knrclark July 4th 2010, 11:51 pm

I'm borrowing adjustable shocks and light springs, lowering the ladder bars, and dropping about 25 #'s on pill size. If that ain't stupid I don't what is but I've got to start somewhere. I get different stories from everyone I talk to..so I'm going with tried and trued. Thanks Jon. This SOB is going to run one way or the other. I'll let you know what happens in a couple of weeks.

Thanks Everyone for the help.
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Post  richter69 July 5th 2010, 12:02 am

Leave the egt at home, I think she is lean lean lean............ If it does what I think you better hang on, and if it likes a mid 70 pill find some 36 nozzels............if I had any that small I'd loan um to ya. Get the water temp up around 165-170 when you stage, and be sure to note the temp before and after the pass.
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Post  knrclark July 5th 2010, 11:21 am

richter69 wrote:Leave the egt at home, I think she is lean lean lean............ If it does what I think you better hang on, and if it likes a mid 70 pill find some 36 nozzels............if I had any that small I'd loan um to ya. Get the water temp up around 165-170 when you stage, and be sure to note the temp before and after the pass.


10-4 Jon, I'm on it.
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Post  dfree383 July 5th 2010, 11:31 am

Kerry
What's the rest of the combo? That car should be going alot faster....

Cam specs? Timing? Shift points? Gearing? Conv? ? ?

When I saw you pull the heads at the bash looked like a 14:1 466 short block. And at 2300# it should be gettin' it on alot harder IMO
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Post  knrclark July 5th 2010, 7:36 pm

dfree383 wrote:Kerry
What's the rest of the combo? That car should be going alot faster....

Cam specs? Timing? Shift points? Gearing? Conv? ? ?

When I saw you pull the heads at the bash looked like a 14:1 466 short block. And at 2300# it should be gettin' it on alot harder IMO

I agree with you Dave. 14.1-1 CR 466, D1 block, stock crank, cam speced by Lem, 650ish lift flat tappet, A-429 heads from Charlie now, Ron's Terminator, 35 nozzle, 0 1/2 pump, 98-108 pill so far, PG tranny, 5100 converter, 430 gear, 14.5x31 tires, 2388 lbs. without me, 38 degrees timing. I had a Cleveland in it before and it ran 6.17 in another car that weighed 300 lbs. more than mine. It ran 6.30's in my car. I thought then something was amiss in the set up. This car should easily run 5.80's I think. The best pass it ever made was last year at the Bash. It went 6.15 with a 1.35 short time at 112. This year without changing anything but the rear gear the best was 6.23 at 110 short time 1.40.

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Post  dfree383 July 5th 2010, 8:16 pm

More info on the cam and the convertor. Was the convertor purchased for the small block?
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Post  Lem Evans July 5th 2010, 8:34 pm

38*s timing? Seems a bit much.

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Post  bruno July 5th 2010, 8:41 pm

Lem Evans wrote:38*s timing? Seems a bit much.

and its on alky ...seems very high

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Post  dfree383 July 5th 2010, 8:57 pm

Is everyting degree'd in and all marks verified?
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Post  knrclark July 5th 2010, 10:53 pm

dfree383 wrote:More info on the cam and the convertor. Was the convertor purchased for the small block?

Dave,

The converter was originally an ATI job for a 514 in this car before I got it. I had a local with 30 yeas experience open it and loosen it up per his request after seeing my cam specs.

Cam Gross lift is .645 intake and .667 exh.
Duration at .020 is 292 in. and 300 exh.
Duration at .050 is 262 in. and 270 exh.
lobe separation is 108
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Post  knrclark July 5th 2010, 10:55 pm

Lem Evans wrote:38*s timing? Seems a bit much.

I thought so too Lem. I started at 28 and went up in 2 degree increments. It was still rising in performance and I was afraid to go any further. I backed it down from 42.
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Post  knrclark July 5th 2010, 10:56 pm

bruno wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:38*s timing? Seems a bit much.

and its on alky ...seems very high

Sounds crazy but as I added timing I added performance.
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Post  knrclark July 5th 2010, 10:58 pm

dfree383 wrote:Is everyting degree'd in and all marks verified?

Dave,

I had a knowledgeable buddy help me and we degreed the cam when I installed it. It is on zero. All marks verified and triple checked.
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