New Eliminator intake

BOSS 429 wrote:

68formalGT wrote:

BOSS 429 wrote:

68formalGT wrote:Would that change the fuel distribution much or would it still work with the regular dominator spacing?

yes  after building these kind of manifolds it does hurt them to move it inward

Are they good, reliable carbs? I've seen pictures of them but never seen one in person, and haven't done any research on them. One of the guys I race with has a pair of split dominators on a 632, they seem to work OK but there's a lot of linkage to make them work.

Ive never ran one of those, We have cut ,and extended out own, And yes they work great

How well would a single split dominator work on that intake? The barrels would be aligned north and south instead of east and west but would fuel distribution still be fairly similar?

OK, the most important part... how much for the intake, how much for a stretched carb?

$2500-$3000 for the BLP carb.

http://blp.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=72_382&products_id=1456&zenid=23624064bc2dd98640e9b5f6462d5d31

Reading the FB link, Chris seemed to think a std 4500 would work nicely. Maybe not ideal, but not a deal breaker?

J.Toney wrote:Reading the FB link, Chris seemed to think a std 4500 would work nicely. Maybe not ideal, but not a deal breaker?

Do you have a link for his FB page?

https://www.facebook.com/chris.uratchko/posts/1347929411884054
Same one Mark posted.

J.Toney wrote:https://www.facebook.com/chris.uratchko/posts/1347929411884054
Same one Mark posted.

That's a pretty cool idea he has but I wonder if a cast one would have a bigger market because of some of the class rules in some types of racing and weight brakes in others?

BOSS 429 wrote:

hookin78 wrote:Actually it has a standard dominator flange and bolt pattern in it , but cast so you can open it up .  I have a picture of the advertisement from the show, You have to cut it open and drill holes for a spread dominator flange.  The one in the picture had been opened up under the carb pab and holes drilled for the stretched carb.  

The one above,DOES NOT HAVE A 5 3/8'' on center 4500 bolt pattern. (one at the show) It is an extended dom pattered

Your right Rich, spread bore only on that one.

BOSS 429 wrote:

68formalGT wrote:Would that change the fuel distribution much or would it still work with the regular dominator spacing?

yes  after building these kind of manifolds it does hurt them to move it inward

I got ahold of Steve and he felt the manifold would still perform very well with a standard dominator so long as it was sized properly for the engine. He also thought it would take minimal porting for a 600" engine but there's plenty room for 650"+ combos!!!

It is a great idea. Too bad it wasn't around 10-15 years ago though. With fuel injection prices coming down these days a carb that expensive is definitely going to be a narrow market. I was very interested in this for an upcoming build until you throw in the $2500 carb. A tunnel ram and 2 carbs would be cheaper and comparable performance. I can definitely see the advantage for certain classes where you are limited to 1 carb.

Looks easy enough to fabricate a top for it to mount a "regular" 4500 Dominator, or EFI unit.

Sounded like it can be set up with a standard dominator flange or opened up for larger engines when needed.

looking at the angle of the runners intended for the spread versus the venturi location of a standard dominator in center. looks like fuel distribution of the standard domi would be pretty poor. But it looks tome like it would work great if used with the stretch as intended since the venturi's would be directly above. Then again I am not a professional.

I will keep shopping for an alternative carb or TB something. I dig it.

The unit been ran on an engine?

I didn't ask him Lem but he said he hoped they would be ready in a couple months.

BBFTorino wrote:Looks easy enough to fabricate a top for it to mount a "regular" 4500 Dominator, or EFI unit.

yes, thats easy

68formalGT wrote:

BOSS 429 wrote:

68formalGT wrote:Would that change the fuel distribution much or would it still work with the regular dominator spacing?

yes  after building these kind of manifolds it does hurt them to move it inward

I got ahold of Chris and he felt the manifold would still perform very well with a standard dominator so long as it was sized properly for the engine. He also thought it would take minimal porting for a 600" engine but there's plenty room for 650"+ combos!!!

high rpm is where the loss comes in, but will still run good

stanger68 wrote:It is a great idea. Too bad it wasn't around 10-15 years ago though. With fuel injection prices coming down these days a carb that expensive is definitely going to be a narrow market.  I was very interested in this for an upcoming build until you throw in the $2500 carb. A tunnel ram and 2 carbs would be cheaper and comparable performance. I can definitely see the advantage for certain classes where you are limited to 1  carb.

I did my first one like this 12 years ago,and others were doing something like it before that.

stanger68 wrote:It is a great idea. Too bad it wasn't around 10-15 years ago though. With fuel injection prices coming down these days a carb that expensive is definitely going to be a narrow market.  I was very interested in this for an upcoming build until you throw in the $2500 carb. A tunnel ram and 2 carbs would be cheaper and comparable performance. I can definitely see the advantage for certain classes where you are limited to 1  carb.

The intake will accept either type dominator. We are using one on my new build and I am not using the stretched dominator . I suggest you call Stevie and discuss with him, he'll steer ya right.-A

Lem Evans wrote:The unit been ran on an engine?

Yea Lem it was ran on a 557 A headed deal, spun up to 8000 rpm. In initial testing it was 30 horse better than what's currently available well ported. I know there have been some changes made to the plenum and floor since the PRI show.-A

4speed wrote:
Yea Lem it was ran on a 557 A headed deal, spun up to 8000 rpm. In initial testing it was 30 horse better than what's currently available well ported. I know there have been some changes made to the plenum and floor since the PRI show.-A

How tall is it? Looks almost as tall as a new TFS tunnel ram.

stanger68 wrote:looking at the angle of the runners intended for the spread versus the venturi location of a standard dominator in center. looks like fuel distribution of the standard domi would be pretty poor. But it looks tome like it would work great if used with the stretch as intended since the venturi's would be directly above. Then again I am not a professional.

I will keep shopping for an alternative carb or TB something. I dig  it.

The shape of the top would be very different for a conventional vs. a stretched Dom. I'd like to see a back to back test of the two, properly designed. My guess is very little gain except at higher rpm.

4speed wrote:

Lem Evans wrote:The unit been ran on an engine?

Yea Lem it was ran on a 557 A headed deal, spun up to 8000 rpm. In initial testing it was 30 horse better than what's currently available well ported. I know there have been some changes made to the plenum and floor since the PRI show.-A

At what RPM did the horse power peak?

Pictures can be deceiving. YOu guys may be right. The more I look at the pic it does have a pretty good distance between the mounting pad and the runner entry. no one ever said how tall it is did they? And was that 30 extra horse gained with a stretch carb and ported intake? , versus "what is currently available" could be anything. If your comparing a ported stretched tricked out dominator carb that is 10" tall against a stock victor out of the box with an out of the box shelf carb then heck yeah it's going to beat it by 3o!

stanger68 wrote:Pictures can be deceiving. YOu guys may be right. The more I look at the pic it does have a pretty good distance between the mounting pad and the runner entry. no one ever said how tall it is did they? And was that 30 extra horse gained with a stretch carb and ported intake? , versus "what is currently available" could be anything. If your comparing a ported stretched tricked out dominator carb that is 10" tall against a stock victor out of the box with an out of the box shelf carb then heck yeah it's going to beat it by 3o!

Since it's for A460 heads I would think that this manifold was compared to the TFS intake? I don't think anyone else is currently making a cast intake for A-heads are they?