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Post  fox331 February 16th 2012, 6:03 pm

Please post your experience with maximum effort Super Cobra Jet heads (Kaase revised aluminum). From looking at various sites maximum Flow is around 410 @ .800 lift. I have also read that lift above .800 can create geometry issues.

The local race course has a Cheap Street class that specifies stock block with conventional heads and a 4150 carb. NA big blocks run at 3300 pounds and you can run no faster than 5.70 twice without being bumped to the 5.40 class.

Could you make 900 HP with a max effort 514 - 557 and be competitive? Please advise if this is possible with a SCJ conventional head setup.

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Post  Barney February 16th 2012, 6:54 pm

I would use an A head if they are allowed, P51 if they aren't. 900 hp with the SCJ is probably possible, but it will definitely be a max effort deal and would be much easier with an A head. The carb will probably be a custom deal also.
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Post  Lem Evans February 16th 2012, 7:46 pm

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Post  c.evans February 16th 2012, 9:32 pm

My 533 CID "Fishkiller" engine made 882 Hp on the dyno several years ago, however, that was with a true 1250 QFT dominator style carb. We plan on dynoing it again with freshened up heads and a new 533 shortblock,,,,,and I intend to bust 900 Hp. I believe that if there is no CID limit, then 900 hp would be abtainable with the 4150 style carb. Probably with a 1050 cfm version. Like Lem suggested, everything needs to be "right".

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Post  Barney February 16th 2012, 9:34 pm

I guess what I said is rubbish so I guess disregard it.
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Post  Lem Evans February 16th 2012, 9:42 pm

Barney wrote:I guess what I said is rubbish so I guess disregard it.

The content of what I posted is more than likely rubbish...so I deleted it.

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Post  bruno February 16th 2012, 9:45 pm

Shoot with the right cam and more compression im sure i can attain 900 plus with ease Wink

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Post  Barney February 16th 2012, 10:06 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
Barney wrote:I guess what I said is rubbish so I guess disregard it.

The content of what I posted is more than likely rubbish...so I deleted it.
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Post  Lem Evans February 16th 2012, 10:10 pm

Barney wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
Barney wrote:I guess what I said is rubbish so I guess disregard it.

The content of what I posted is more than likely rubbish...so I deleted it.
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Post  Lem Evans February 16th 2012, 10:10 pm

bruno wrote:Shoot with the right cam and more compression im sure i can attain 900 plus with ease Wink

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Post  bruno February 16th 2012, 10:13 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
bruno wrote:Shoot with the right cam and more compression im sure i can attain 900 plus with ease Wink

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i thought thats what you said sir ????

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Post  69F100 February 16th 2012, 10:14 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
Barney wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
Barney wrote:I guess what I said is rubbish so I guess disregard it.

The content of what I posted is more than likely rubbish...so I deleted it.
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Post  Lem Evans February 16th 2012, 10:17 pm

I have no idea how you could have thought that......that is not what I said.

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Post  Barney February 16th 2012, 10:18 pm

Oh for cry yi yi. I seem to have offended the powers that be.
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Post  richter69 February 16th 2012, 10:19 pm

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Post  bruno February 16th 2012, 10:21 pm

Lem Evans wrote:I have no idea how you could have thought that......that is not what I said.

im sorry ....

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Post  Lem Evans February 16th 2012, 10:21 pm

Barney wrote:I guess what I said is rubbish so I guess disregard it.

Seems you are the thin skinned one i.m.o.

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Post  Barney February 16th 2012, 10:24 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
Barney wrote:I guess what I said is rubbish so I guess disregard it.

Seems you are the thin skinned one i.m.o.
Nope I'm just fine, just a little out of it. I thought we posted reasonably similar posts mine was just in a nutshell, your fine.
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Post  Lem Evans February 16th 2012, 11:05 pm

Cool ....let's move on.

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Post  Barney February 16th 2012, 11:53 pm

Like I believe we are all saying it can be done. It will take some planning and a little work, and there may easier ways to do it, but yes you can accomplish your goals.
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Post  BOSS 429 February 17th 2012, 1:19 am

fox331 wrote:Please post your experience with maximum effort Super Cobra Jet heads (Kaase revised aluminum). From looking at various sites maximum Flow is around 410 @ .800 lift. I have also read that lift above .800 can create geometry issues.

The local race course has a Cheap Street class that specifies stock block with conventional heads and a 4150 carb. NA big blocks run at 3300 pounds and you can run no faster than 5.70 twice without being bumped to the 5.40 class.

Could you make 900 HP with a max effort 514 - 557 and be competitive? Please advise if this is possible with a SCJ conventional head setup.
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what about a bluethunder head
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Post  rmcomprandy February 17th 2012, 11:06 am

I have built a 521 with CNC'd SCJ's that went about 395 intake CFM at .800" lift and a ported Weiand tunnel Ram which dyno'ed slightly over 900 horsepower.
The intake valve lift was .788", (before lash). With a 1.65/1 intake rocker arm it had .750" valve lift and lost only a few horsepower but, gained a bunch of torque. The CAM didn't need that much lift after all.

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Post  dfree383 February 17th 2012, 11:36 am

Definetly an achievable goal. 900 hp on a 557-572" high compression motor with Kaase SCj's, no problem IMO
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Post  Lem Evans February 17th 2012, 12:29 pm

With a true 4150 carb, 900 hp will not be easy at or under 557".

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Post  whitefield February 17th 2012, 12:45 pm

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fox331 wrote:Please post your experience with maximum effort Super Cobra Jet heads (Kaase revised aluminum). From looking at various sites maximum Flow is around 410 @ .800 lift. I have also read that lift above .800 can create geometry issues.

The local race course has a Cheap Street class that specifies stock block with conventional heads and a 4150 carb. NA big blocks run at 3300 pounds and you can run no faster than 5.70 twice without being bumped to the 5.40 class.

Could you make 900 HP with a max effort 514 - 557 and be competitive? Please advise if this is possible with a SCJ conventional head setup.
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X2 What about blue thunder heads
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